18:11:48 From Chryso Gregoriou to All panelists : sorry I wasn't sure of my time zone, so when are you starting? 18:12:16 From Martin Couzins to All panelists : Hi, we are starting at 19.00 GMT 18:12:28 From Martin Couzins : Hi, we are starting at 19.00 GMT 18:12:49 From Chryso Gregoriou to All panelists : ok thanks 18:17:27 From MEL608 to All panelists : Hi - Sarah from Musinc - we seem to be down as a panelist but I think we are just participating. 18:33:32 From captioner to All panelists : Hi this is Jen the captioner, you can see the text ok? 18:33:43 From captioner to All panelists : I'm not sure if my microphone is muted? 18:44:26 From Martin Couzins : Hi all, welcome to tonight’s webinar. Tell us where in the world you are! 18:46:12 From Martin Couzins : When using the chat panel, please make sure you select ‘All panelists and attendees’ in the blue bar. That way your message will be shared with everyone. 18:50:52 From Martin Couzins : Tonight’s session starts at 19.00 GMT. 18:54:28 From carienmeijer to All panelists : hello everyone. Good luck with tonight’s webinar 18:55:04 From Martin Couzins to carienmeijer, All Panelists : Thanks, Carien! 18:56:31 From johnkelly : hello 18:56:55 From Martin Couzins to All panelists : I’ll hit the record button now so feel free to start your welcomes douglas! 18:57:11 From carienmeijer : hello JK 18:57:27 From Douglas Noble : Hi Carien and JK 18:57:30 From Martin Couzins : Hi John, lovely to see you here! 18:57:49 From Daryl Beeton : hi everyone! 18:57:50 From johnkelly : hi carien & martin 18:58:55 From johnkelly : hello from Sauff London! 18:58:59 From Tim : Hello! Tim from Leicester here 18:59:06 From TomLawrence : Hello everyone, Tom from York here 18:59:09 From Douglas Noble : hi Tim 18:59:11 From Janet O'Sullivan : hello from Janet in Chester 18:59:16 From Douglas Noble : And Tom 18:59:28 From carienmeijer : Hello from Carien in North London 18:59:45 From Martin Couzins : Martin from Bath. Not in the bath (gets coat) 18:59:46 From C&B : Hi Caroline & Baz In Bristol 19:00:10 From Alexandra haider to All panelists : hi from Alex 19:00:15 From Kate Wilkinson to All panelists : Hello from Kate in Oxford 19:00:53 From Sadie Fleming : Hi from Sadie in Bristol! 19:01:33 From Karen Irwin to Sadie Fleming, All Panelists : Hi Sadie - great you’re here. You’re featured in my presentation!!! :) 19:02:19 From Sadie Fleming : Haha excellent! :) 19:03:28 From Florence Hopwood : Hello I'm Flo - still figuring out the digi stuff! Sorry! 19:04:49 From Lili Iontcheva : Hi all I am Lili from Merton Music Foundation 19:05:20 From Douglas Noble : #AMIE #MusicalInclusion 19:05:45 From Martin Couzins : @Flo - let me know if you need help 19:06:03 From Delyth Williams : Hi, I'm Delyth I'm a teacher at a special needs school and music lead for the school 19:06:34 From Florence Hopwood : Thanks Martin! I can hear/sometimes see the vid and assume you're not supposed to hear or see me?! I'ma special needs teacher at a school in Bath and co-ordinate the music there too just to introduce myself! 19:07:02 From Florence Hopwood : apologies for horrific typos 19:07:29 From Martin Couzins : @Flo - lovely to meet you! I can’t see you on video. 19:07:50 From johnkelly : hi Daryl 19:08:44 From Douglas Noble : Hi all - Please do use chat box as we go along - we will do our best to pick up comments 19:10:55 From Kat to All panelists : I am in the position where I am disabled enough to be debilitated day to day, but not disabled ENOUGH to get benefits or even be recognised as disabled (I'm autistic)… I've applied for things like the Paraorchestra but not been given a seond glance... and I almost didn't attend this evening because I felt rather sidelined! 19:12:33 From Douglas Noble : Hi Kat. We are really glad you have joined us this evening 19:13:00 From Martin Couzins : @Kat Great to have you here. Please select ‘All panelists and attendees’ when you share in chat - if you want everyone to see what you are sharing 19:13:58 From Kat : I am in the position where I am disabled enough to be debilitated day to day, but not disabled ENOUGH to get benefits or even be recognised as disabled (I'm autistic)… I've applied for things like the Paraorchestra but not been given a seond glance... and I almost didn't attend this evening because I felt rather sidelined! 19:14:13 From Karen Irwin : I think the work that musicians do in inclusive music education can have a really positive impact on them as performers. 19:15:47 From carienmeijer to All panelists : Douglas - shall I respond to Kat’s message or will you? 19:17:40 From Kat : I once went to a networking event which included background music as well as a low ceiling etc which meant my hypersensitivities could not cope! 19:18:49 From Martin Couzins to carienmeijer, All Panelists : I’d both respond. I’m sure Kat would like to hear from you both 19:19:08 From carienmeijer to All panelists : cool 19:19:17 From Douglas Noble : Hi Kat. It’s great you have joined us this evening . You are very welcome 19:20:04 From Kat : is there a way of turning the captions off? they're distracting me and I can't actually follow... 19:20:10 From carienmeijer : Hi Kat, it’s Carien here from Drake Music. Thanks for joining tonight’s webinar and sharing some of your experiences 19:21:43 From Douglas Noble : Hi Martin , can Kat turn off the captions. Kat we need them for anyone who is hearing impaired 19:22:16 From Kat : yes I understand that. I'm lucky in that I'm not impaired that way, but I do struggle with overwhelm sometimes x 19:22:48 From johnkelly : ta barrier i experience is the gap between having high expectations and wanting to go forward whilst experiencing very simple barriers that prevent us moving forward..if that makes sense 19:23:18 From Douglas Noble : Hi Kat we are recording so it will be available to listen to aria later if you cannot follow it now 19:23:32 From Kat : yes please 19:23:40 From Martin Couzins : Hi Kat, I’m afraid I don’t think it is possible to turn them off. That said, we will investigate how to do that in future events. I’m sorry that this doesn’t help right now 19:25:00 From Kat : may have to turn my screen off to be honest! Just wanted to say @johnkelly I totally know what you mean... I have often felt lesser as a musician because I couldn't 'deal with it' like other musicians could, without giving myself the credit and space to acknowledge my own needs 19:25:44 From Kat : (and don't worry about the captions. I won't miss much whereas I know a hearing impaired person might miss a lot. Think I'll just listen and close my eyes haha!) 19:25:48 From johnkelly : brill Daryl thanks 19:26:06 From Kat : can I suggest that instead of black on white slides that they be done with less highly contrasting colours? 19:27:00 From Martin Couzins : Hi Kat, thanks for flagging it up. We will definitely see how we can ensure individuals can turn off captions. Thanks for raising it. 19:27:22 From Kat : ok - my last comment was about the text on the slides themselves - the text is also a bit small 19:27:30 From Kat : I'm quite short sighted 19:28:36 From Martin Couzins : @kat, appreciate your feedback. Thank you. We’ll use this when creating future sessions 19:28:42 From Kat : thank you :) 19:29:41 From C&B : absolutely JK Daryl I’d like to talk further feeling included age comment appreciated 19:30:05 From Kat : I have a question surrounding the choice of words 'emerging artist'?# 19:30:49 From Kat : oh hold on... 19:34:07 From Kat : just to double check I've been muted again? (Thanks very much for answering my question really appreciated!) 19:34:08 From Lili Iontcheva : How an organisation can partner with Drake music 19:35:24 From Kat : May I ask the reason why you never re-audition groups? I've tried in various ensembles for a few years now but I've been refused and I've not had any feedback 19:37:42 From Douglas Noble : Hi Lili visit our website and get in touch www.drakemusic.org 19:38:05 From Lili Iontcheva : Thank you Douglas ,will do! 19:38:44 From MEL608 : A question - thoughts around how we address the issue that despite lots of amazing training / support / mentoring there isn't a lot of accredited courses, which people need to work in settings like schools. 19:39:52 From Delyth Williams : Sounds of Intent were looking into accrediting but there is a lack of funding I believe ... 19:41:47 From Karen Irwin to Delyth Williams, All Panelists : There is a PG cert in Sounds of Intent through Roehampton Uni. 19:43:08 From johnkelly : Thanks Nina. 19:43:15 From Kat : Thanks Nina 19:43:38 From Alex Marshall : is there still a fee to audition for LMN? 19:46:22 From Nina Swann : @Alex, hi yes, there is currently, but again, I think that will be part of the review process. As Darryl said earlier, LMN also want to open the doors wider and reach out to people that might not think we are for them. Removing fees and updating the recruitment process will be a part of that 19:47:19 From Douglas Noble to All panelists : Karen - quick time check - we have 13 mins left 19:47:25 From Kat : with regards to this review, would you look at allowing people to re-audition? 19:47:50 From Nina Swann : @kat Currently we don’t re audition groups just as a way of managing capacity of the team. I think in the review we will look at this again 19:49:18 From Nina Swann : @Kat A big part of the review for me will be what LMN needs to put in place in order to offer as much support pre-audition (or pre-recruitment) for musicians so there is more chance of groups getting on if they are right for us, and we for them 19:49:45 From carienmeijer : This may be of interest: Certificate for Music Educators https://www.trinitycollege.com/qualifications/music/CME 19:50:49 From Douglas Noble : There is also a CME for Inclusive Music Practice in Bristol 19:51:00 From Tim : I am a professional musician who has been leading some music sessions with SEND children for the past year. Feeling very lost as I am increasingly feeling under trained and under prepared but not sure how to further develop my practice. Is LMN for me? 19:51:20 From Kat : that would be great - I was really unsure as to whether you were looking for just a good concert or musicians who already knew how to engage with an audience with differing needs. I, along with a lot of other musicians , didn't feel I had enough information to prepare... 19:52:17 From Nina Swann : @Tim, definitely worth a conversation with us! Please drop me a line (nina.swann@livemusicnow.org.uk) 19:52:55 From carienmeijer : @Tim - Drake Music runs a Closed Facebook Group ‘Inclusive Music Leaders and Teachers’ - which might be nice to join and be part of a network of practitioners/ teachers 19:53:31 From Sadie Fleming : Definitely recommend the PGCert in Sounds of Intent :) 19:53:51 From Douglas Noble : This Drake Facebook Page is a good place to connect with and find a supportive peer practitioner community to counter isolation https://www.facebook.com/groups/inclusivemusicteachersleadersUK/ 19:54:20 From Nina Swann : @Kat I’m hoping that future support won’t just be reams of information on a word doc, hoping to have very practical sessions with more time to meet potential musicians properly. Generally we’re looking for great performers who show a capacity to engage with their audiences 19:54:53 From Tim : Thanks guys! Will take a look after webinar 19:55:15 From Douglas Noble : Also see the Drake Music blog site for practice tips. Comment and articles https://www.drakemusic.org/about-us/ 19:55:48 From Sadie Fleming : Haha hello! 19:55:54 From Douglas Noble to All panelists : Hi Karen 5 mins can you do in 3 so we can have wrap up 19:55:57 From Kat : *waves* 19:55:59 From Nina Swann : @Tim also helpful film resources here https://vimeo.com/showcase/2996135 19:56:02 From Kat : how do you spell that word?? haha 19:57:21 From Delyth Williams : Would love a staff ukulele training session at our school! 19:58:19 From C&B to All panelists : re soi course & quote brilliant be good to hook up Sadie thanks inspirational women thankyou both 19:58:25 From carienmeijer : For useful music ed resources: https://www.drakemusic.org/blog/newstype/resources/ 19:59:11 From johnkelly : Thanks Karen & all, really good inputs 19:59:24 From Janet O'Sullivan : Tim come along to our school we would support you to deliver music and to not feel lost 19:59:28 From C&B to All panelists : amazing carien Nina 19:59:36 From Kat : Thanks for your presentation guys! 19:59:43 From Delyth Williams : I'm sounds of intent lead at my school and trying to start embed it into our practice, if anyone thinks we could support each other happy to swap email addresses 20:00:03 From Delyth Williams : Explained Sounds of Intent really well there btw 20:00:06 From Douglas Noble : https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/5473930/T22-Step-Up-Webinars-Career-Development-25th-Feb-2020-Participant-Feedback-copy 20:00:59 From carienmeijer to All panelists : THANKS EVERYONE! 20:01:07 From Tim : @Janet I would love to. Where are you and how can I drop you a line? 20:01:10 From Kat : amazing job on closed captions!! 20:01:10 From Daryl Beeton : thank you all! 20:01:13 From johnkelly : Thanks every one, bye! 20:01:18 From Tim : Thank you very much! 20:01:19 From TomLawrence : Thank you all 20:01:20 From Kat : was watching you type things as they went by! brilliant job! 20:01:22 From Janet O'Sullivan : thank you