19:01:57 From Craig Howlett : Will the recording be available at the end as i may not be able to stay for the full webinar.. 19:02:19 From Martin Couzins : Yes, this will be recorded and shared. 19:02:28 From Craig Howlett : Many thanks Martin! 19:03:16 From Martin Couzins : Welcome, Craig! 19:04:21 From Craig Howlett : How long is this scheduled for Martin? 19:05:03 From Joy : 7-8pm, Craig 19:05:30 From Martin Couzins : Thanks, Joy! You beat me to it. 19:09:55 From Douglas Noble : This is the doc https://www.drakemusic.org/what-is-inclusion-making-music-is-the-key/ 19:13:37 From Douglas Noble : https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000db8k 19:13:59 From Douglas Noble : The second link is the Stewart Copeland programme 19:14:18 From Craig Howlett : Please can you post links with the recorded video also when that gets emailed? Regards the programme on BBC etc 19:14:26 From Craig Howlett : don't want to miss anything 19:15:08 From Craig Howlett : Sounds interesting i see music exactly the same it connects people. 19:15:13 From Lili : I agree fully with the importance of Music music and inclusion hand by hand 19:15:14 From Craig Howlett : Thanks John! 19:15:47 From Emily To All Panelists : it’s an excellent programme, I’ve really enjoyed it 19:16:00 From Alexandra Haider : creative expression 19:16:01 From Craig Howlett : Inclusion is a sense of belonging 19:16:05 From Craig Howlett : for everybody involved 19:16:13 From Jessica : equal opportunites 19:16:16 From Lili : Inclusion is emotional connection 19:16:20 From MEL608 : Those with the biggest barriers receive the most support 19:16:20 From rachel thame : Listening and hearing and building together 19:16:25 From Rebecca To All Panelists : inclusion is belonging 19:16:27 From Rob Parton : removing barriers 19:16:31 From Clare Cook : proactively taking away any barriers that people may have to participation 19:16:32 From Ginny To All Panelists : respecting and supporting everyone’s contribution equally 19:16:34 From Joshua Jones : Inclusion is giving every person a value 19:16:35 From philipflood : Not an option. 19:16:36 From benjaminjackson To All Panelists : Inclusion is the celebration of contribution 19:16:41 From C&B To All Panelists : joy 19:16:44 From Sara Domville : all of me and others 19:16:44 From Nat : Inclusion is ensuring that a person has the opportunity to thrive and succeed in the world, no matter their needs, lifestyle, background or disability. 19:16:45 From Hilary Davies : Acceptance of diversity and valuing the individual 19:16:54 From Sarah Cain : inclusion is everyone have the same opportunities 19:16:54 From Beth Pickard : Inclusion is equitable access to opportunities and participation. 19:16:56 From Tracy : collaborative 19:16:56 From Lili : All is for ALL 19:16:58 From Alex Marshall : acceptance and accesibility 19:16:59 From Sonia Allori : Inclusion is a right or it should be. 19:17:01 From Emily O To All Panelists : Offering ways in for all involved 19:17:06 From Finlay McDermid To All Panelists : facilitating meaningful involvement 19:17:14 From MEL608 : Responding to individual needs 19:17:15 From Joy : learning from eachother 19:17:24 From AliceMcG : Allowing people to engage in their way 19:17:43 From rachellane : treating everyone the same 19:17:52 From rachellane : not seeing disability as a disability 19:18:13 From rachellane : rights to participate in all aspects of learning 19:18:52 From hannah To All Panelists : everyone gets what they need to succeed 19:19:14 From Sara : respect, appreciation and understanding 19:19:36 From hannah To All Panelists : not just tolerance! active inclusion and adjustment for all people 19:20:16 From Emily To All Panelists : ooo I love the chart 😊 19:21:17 From Comdiforme To All Panelists : nothing with us without us (leading it) 19:21:47 From John Kelly : Micheline Mason “I am beginning to realise that inclusion is not a definable state, but a set of principles, which can be applied to anything. It is not essentially about disability, but about building a sustainable future for all of us.” 19:21:51 From Beth Pickard : Sounds like a great book :-) 19:22:12 From Douglas Noble : https://www.facebook.com/inclusivesolutionsUK/photos/a.10150494088000020/10155751305855020/?type=1&theater 19:22:31 From Douglas Noble : Link to the Incurably Human Facebook page above 19:24:15 From Deborah Woollaston : Inclusion is what happens when we value different voices and experiences 19:25:41 From Margaret To All Panelists : is the first step in understanding to recognise that some voices are not always at the table? 19:25:55 From Margaret : is the first step in understanding to recognise that some voices are not always at the table? 19:26:59 From AliceMcG : Link for the Guardian: Access is a human right': how deaf and disabled people are transforming theatre https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2020/jan/27/theatre-access-actors-writers-directors-theatres-accessibility 19:27:46 From Douglas Noble : Thank you, Alice 19:31:10 From Douglas Noble : The We All Make Music Doc https://www.drakemusic.org/news/released-we-all-make-music-guide/ 19:31:26 From Lili : Talking to the support team and trying to understand their needs 19:32:24 From Alex Marshall : everyone engaged in making music 19:35:11 From Margaret : My context is in mainstream state school education - we're trying to use data to inform programme design. It's helpful because we can get a bit of a head start on understanding the needs of the children and young people who will 'appear' in front of us, but it's a step away from being completely confidence that our settings are inclusive regardless of who walks through the door... 19:35:36 From Margaret : Sorry, lots of spelling mistakes! But I hope it makes sense. 19:38:14 From Emily O To All Panelists : 100% agree with the benefits for non-disabled participants - so important and seen this in positive action many times 19:38:39 From benjaminjackson To All Panelists : I agree with you Lili and Margaret , by talking with an in school specialist on motor skills. I was able to understand and plan with this in mind (piano) to improve the opportunity for contribution and development. Unfortunately I don’t know how easily available this information is. 19:39:28 From MEL608 : We find that often Music Leaders are going into schools and youth organisations without the knowledge of individual needs as the information isn't shared as well as it could be, Music Leaders need organisational support. 19:39:50 From Margaret : Agreed! 19:40:11 From Emily O To All Panelists : Hear hear! 19:40:33 From philipflood : Our approach is that anything that we are part of doesn’t happen unless someone with lived experience is central to the planning and delivery of whatever we are doing. That takes time and budget but is crucial and overwhelmingly rewarding for everyone involved. 19:40:54 From Nat : I love that idea! 19:41:31 From Douglas Noble : Blog here on Social Model https://www.drakemusic.org/blog/hdekretser/understanding-disability-part-5-the-social-model/ 19:43:01 From Sara : I think funders are beginning to understand this too, Philip. I agree with you though, that it should be key 19:43:45 From Beth Pickard : I think that shift from 'needs based' to 'rights based' is a critical shift. 19:46:44 From Douglas Noble : Great comment about lived experience, Philip 19:46:55 From Comdiforme : What Philip has said is essential. 19:49:21 From C&B To All Panelists : I’d love to connect and communicate learn from with you guys further can we find ways to keep connected as really want need to concentrate on John so torn between listening and commenting! 19:49:56 From benjaminjackson To All Panelists : Further reading Deci and Ryan self determination theory. 19:50:51 From Douglas Noble : C&B yes please keep in touch @WeAllMakeMuisc www.drakemusic.org douglasnoble@drakemusic.org 19:52:02 From Douglas Noble : johnkelly@drakemusic.org 19:53:03 From Douglas Noble : Please complete our feedback survey after the Webinar bit.ly/drakeinclusion 19:55:10 From Tracy : Do you have any examples of how you've gone about identifying a group of people who might want to have better access to music and then starting that conversation wi 19:55:31 From Douglas Noble : https://network.youthmusic.org.uk/amie-inclusion-resources 19:56:07 From Lili : I just wanted to ask if there is any training you provide for hubs for staff and tutors based on their work already and how they can be even more inclusive or just also come and see and share our view and experience maybe 19:57:01 From Joy : Hey Lili, we do! you can find info here https://www.drakemusic.org/learning/training/training-inclusion-music-tech-in-practice/ 19:57:04 From Douglas Noble : Yes we have training https://www.drakemusic.org/learning/training/ 19:57:22 From Lili : Brilliant ! Thank you. 19:58:04 From Douglas Noble : Please complete the survey after this webinar so we can feedback to funders bit.ly/drakeinclusion 19:58:07 From Joy : Resources will be shared after the webinar 19:58:14 From C&B To All Panelists : thanks great Douglas good to continue the conversation with all here today 19:59:04 From Lili : Brilliant as we are trying to change some things at Merton Music Foundation so your help and in put will be amazing! 19:59:11 From Douglas Noble : bit.ly/drakeinclusion 19:59:21 From Deborah Woollaston : We are looking at parallels between social model and conversations in intersectional feminism and equality in other areas and looking at how people self exclude because they expect to not be included. Making them harder to find and engage, but another part of the ongoing process. 19:59:30 From Craig Howlett : Thank you all very insightful have been concentrating! 19:59:30 From geraldsterling To All Panelists : Will there be access to the full recording of this webinar? 19:59:38 From Lili : Thank you so much! This was an amazing session! 19:59:43 From Douglas Noble : Here is the link to the feedback survey bit.ly/drakeinclusion 19:59:55 From Joy : thats really interesting deborah, if you have more comments please email them to me at joystacey@drakemusic.org and I can share 20:00:10 From Emily O To All Panelists : Thank you so much for opening up this conversation - it’s been fascinating! 20:00:36 From Ginny To All Panelists : excellent thank you 20:01:02 From Gary Day : Thank you. That was a great session! 20:01:16 From Douglas Noble : https://www.drakemusic.org/blog/douglas-noble/step-up-free-learning-and-development-support-for-music-educators/ 20:01:19 From Margaret : What was the conference you mentioned?! 20:01:20 From Alexandra Haider : thank you 20:01:25 From Joy : sound connections 20:01:31 From Sonia Allori : Thanks 20:01:32 From philipflood : Great session, well done John, Douglas and all the team at Drake! 20:01:34 From C&B To All Panelists : namaste 20:01:36 From Douglas Noble : Inclusive Practice in Action 20:01:42 From Jessica : Thanks from Digit Music! 20:01:42 From Franz To All Panelists : Inclusion is opening your world. Musical thanks, great session! 20:01:43 From Margaret : Oh - I have my ticket already - I blame a dodgy wifi connection :) 20:01:45 From Liliana Luongo : Thanks